so on saturday, we got a 2 yr old dog from dogs trust (a harrier hound x)
we were warned that he could jump on furniture etc, but we never expected him to be as bad as he is. he bites, he only listens if there’s food involved, he jumps on furniture to assert his dominance, literally walks all over us. if he’s ever left alone, he whines and howls. he chews everything, and is getting really quite vicious. none of us want him anymore. he’s getting worse and worse by the day, and we’re actually scared of him, especially for my 5 yr old sis. he’s too clever, and he’s even working out how to open door handles.
my dad rung dogs trust up today, they said it would take 7-10 days for them to sort out a kennel. we can’t cope that long, he’s just too dangerous. he’s up in the bathroom right now whining. please, what can we do to get them to take him back? i looks on the site. at the particular branch, there are 104 dogs. i know for a fact that there are 135 kennels there, so space isn’t a problem. my dad will ring them again tomorrow and tell them that if they don’t take him, he will be put down. it’s seriously gotten to that point. i don’t want it to happen, but we just can’t have him anymore. would they take him back then? have any of you had similar experiences? sorry if this is a pointless question, but it’s really stressing me out. and please no trainign advice comment. we’re past that. he’s a lost cause.
actually, we have had experience with dogs before. our last dog lived till ten, and my mum has has countless dogs in the past. he just doesn’t want to learn. he won’t listen. he’s acting aggressively. he’ll only do things for food, and as soon as they’re out of the equation, he turns nasty again.
we have taken him out for walks, we have played with him, we have been affectionate to him, but he is very stubborn. the dog would be better suited for life on a farm than in a house; especially with young children.
oh and he was fine in the kennel. sweet and calm, but it just seems like he isn’t used to living in a house. we have not approached him threateningly, for the simple reason that he may have come from an abusive home, and doing so would make him aggressive. he thinks that he is higher up in the pack than up, and that is why he pushes up off the seatee, and tries to stand over us. it may sound like he is misunderstood, but he really won’t change. we were told he would be good with children. he’s bitten all of us now. he’s just far too unpredictable. he can be happy and wagging one second, then turn on you. he growls and bites, and it is just not safe for my sister. so i’m sorry if you think we’re horrible, or bad dog owners, but sometimes, the dog just doesn’t work. it’s not worth having a dog but always being worried if he’ll lash out one day and seriously hurt someone.
actually, he opened doors when we DID shut them correctly. actually, the problem with continous treat feeding is that they won’t pay attention when you don’t have treats. we had to use food to lure him off the sofa. once he’d eaten it, he jumped right back on again. and actually, we had a dog for 10 years and he lived a happy healthy life. that dog was happier in the kennels outdoors with other dogs. not suitable for a house. not suitable for children. would you want your child/brother/sister to be bloody bitten or worse by your dog? by a dog that you knew was dangerous but still let into the house? exactly. and he was the type of dog that wouldn’t change no matter how much training you gave him, because he was stubborn, headstrong, and domineering. life with a family was stressing him out too. and you could see that through the contrast between how he was in the kennel and inside. so no.
I’d shove him in the car and take him back right now – and simply hand him over to a member of their staff.
More checks should have been carried out on both the dog and your family’s ability to deal with it.
NO DOG IS A LOST CAUSE!!!!!!!!!!
I know you may be past training, but there are other people out there that may have more patience than you, find a devoted person willing to take him under his wing to train him. I swear, if you put him down only because he is a lost cause I’m gonna lose it. He is sure not a lost cause. The person who trained him was.
What you need to do is post his name EVERYWHERE, find someone who will take him and train him. Work you **** off trying to find someone, practically kill yourself doing it, but whatever you do, dont put him down unless you’ve tried everything!!!!!
You may have to put him down, but listen, when you go put him down, NEVER EVER tell yourself that he or any other dog was a lost cause.
If you were to try to train him, although I doubt you are the way it sounds, I suggest research victoria stilwell from its me or the dog on animal planet. or The dog whisperer from discovery channel I think.
But just promise me that you do your best and do not call him a lost cause, cause hes not. You just dont have the resources right now, and its unfortunate you cant get them.
This is such a sad story, I’m so sorry.
(I think the problem may be boredom, are you exercising him, playing with him. And really if your are past training after only a few days, you have to be joking, getting a dog takes patience and time, if you cant do that make sure you know the dog your getting is pre trained. Don’t put it to sleep if you can, they don’t call it a rescue dog for nothing)
Wow! How did your family slip through their screenings?!
Please, you don’t know what they have available. Most rescues are so busy it is hard to keep websites up to date. Also, many rescues don’t list all dogs they are helping. Many dogs are in screening processes and at the time won’t be listed. It’s pretty unfair that you know what is going on with the rescue.
How sad for that dog that you are past the training process after what 3 days.
Get a crate large enough to contain him and keep him there until you can get him taken back.
Unbelievable that they would give a difficult dog like that to people who can’t deal with it, sad for the dog as well as for you.I’ve trained dogs so much worse than what you describe, but it takes time, stamina and lots of patience. Next time you adopt, make sure you are getting a dog you can handle, no dog should be bounced around like this.
Actually, to give up on a dog after 3 days doesn’t say much about your willingness to help a homeless dog, by the way. Best you stick to cats.
You might want to get an experienced trainer as I can’t personally think of anything to stop him :L Otherwise take him back as he’ll get gradually worse as you are saying!!
Good Luck x
Why am I getting thumbs down??
STOP IT!!
For ONE it doesn’t take 7-10 days for the kennel cries! Three days max, but you have to know what your doing. I can’t believe they let your family adopt this dog, seems like more research should have been done on this rescue. You should try to reach out to other people via the internet or local papers to find this dog a home with a trainer.
I’m sorry for the mess the dog has caused. It honestly sounds like he has WAY too much energy. Not sure if this is an option, but tire him out. Take him for a bike ride at least for 45-60 mins. Put him on a treadmill, run him something along these lines. You have to drain some energy from him that will be your best relief. You can not be afraid of him, because he senses your fear and will only take advantage of you.
Best of Luck.
You haven’t even had him for a week…training is not a lost cause. You haven’t even had time to start giving him a chance. Dog owners need to be patient even if you own a Marley. my advice….get a stuffed animal dog and lay it in the corner of your livingroom.
Step one: Put dog in car
Step two: Drive to the shelter
Step three: Tell the staff you can no longer care for the dog, and they need to take it.
Simple as that. I hope this shelter puts you on their, Do Not Adopt list. People like you aren’t meant to take care of a pet rock, let alone a dog.
Next time, get a stuffed animal.
Thornita, Wheaten Mom is absolutely correct, so please take your snide comments elsewhere.
EDIT: Oh, so you’ve removed your original rude comments about Wheaten Mom? But you decided to write to me in private:
WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE SAYING I GIVE SNIDE COMMENTS?? Don’t want trouble don’t start it yea?? Got it, good!! *****.
: ) I wonder what it is about hiding behind the facade of the faceless internet that gives a person an idea of power . . .
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As for you, Monster Morris, you need to take the dog back immediately and let them know that you cannot handle having a dog and should probably be on a Don’t Adopt list.
Why does this dog not have a crate? Why is this dog not tethered to a family member when he’s not in his crate? Why is this dog biting, are you approaching him in a threatening manner? Why is he not thoroughly exercised to calm him down?
When you rescue a dog (or buy from a shelter, depending on the verbage you prefer), then you are assuming responsibility for a life that has had God only what happened to it. This dog could have been sold too young, could have been improperly socialized, could have been running wild and starving for some time, could have been in dog fights, could have been abused, whatever. You just don’t know.
What you DON’T do is adopt/buy a dog and expect it to immediately fit into your household perfectly with NO TRAINING or EFFORT on YOUR part. That is misguided, and frankly, just plain dumb.
Take him back immediately and get some goldfish.
Wow. First of all, the dog’s two years old and you got him from a dog rescue. That pretty much says he hasn’t had a good life up to yet – I should know, the first dog my family got was a rescue one.
Secondly, you’ve had him for what? Three days? And your Dad’s already thinking about putting him down? That’s just wrong. Especially since you’ve been training him for three days.
The puppy we got this time last year has been trained throughout all of 2009 and she’s still not perfectly obedient. Training isn’t just something you start for a couple of days and then quit – did your parents try to teach you to talk in three days? No. Did they teach you to read fluently in three days? No. It doesn’t work that way. You need to keep training him, training him and training him.
With the biting problem, hit him on the nose and say No biting or something similar loud (but not too loud) and firmly. If he jumps on the furniture, push him off. If he gets to be too much, buy a crate (though they are meant to be a safe place for dogs).
So far, in the three days you’ve had him, he’s managed to suss out that you and your family is **********. You need to teach him that he’s not the boss of the house – you are. And you can only do that with TRAINING.
Until you try with him, you won’t get anywhere. But if you’re that set on taking him back, wait out the days. Just remember that he may have already (or will do in the future) be shuffled from the rescue branch to home repetitively.
just because 104 dogs are listed on the site does not mean they have empty cages. They may not have all of the dogs listed, or some kennels may be housing dogs that are not ready for adoption yet.
I wouldnt be so quick to call him a lost cause.. but your household has a young child in it, this dog is not suitable for your home.. he would need a home with someone who is more assertive and knows how to handle a dominant dog.
there are 104 dogs. i know for a fact that there are 135 kennels
Sheesh – you really know a lot don’t you? Like this is the busiest time of the year for dog rescue.
You’ve had this dog less than 48 hours and can’t wait to get shot of him
He bites – under what circumstances?
He only listens if there’s food involved – so do most dogs if they don’t know the people supposedly in charge of them
He jumps on furniture to assert his dominance Rubbish – he jumps on furniture because he can and because he hasn’t yet learnt that it’s not acceptable.
Literally walks all over us – only because you haven’t the authority to stop him
He whines and howls _ Yep, many dogs do that when they are insecure
He chews everything – yep, most rescue dogs do this to begin with
We’re past that – he’s a lost cause.
Oh, wow, 48 hours and he’s condemned as a lost cause. Poor dog.
How did he end up with you? – such bad luck for him.
Rescue dogs come with problems (usually lack of training), they don’t come ready trained and complete with the knowledge of exactly how they should behave in every situation. That’s up to the new owners to have the patience and consistency and experience to put in the hard work and end up with a well trained dog.
Dog’s Trust have a pretty good reputation for assessing dogs and people. Obviously they slipped up this time on the human side.
I kind of agree with the first answerer, although I also understand where you are coming from. What an awful situation to find yourselves in, I sympathise with you,
I agree that the ‘dogs trust’ should have put more effort into finding the ‘right’ dog for you all, if indeed there is such a dog.
I think you should have a word to the RSPCA about this particular dog trust and the situation they have left you in,. I dont think you would harm the dog, but they have put you in a very bad situation. The fact he’s chosen to go in the bathroom speaks volumes on two sides of the story,… Firstly you have put the dog out of harms way, which is great. Second, the fact you have felt the need to do this, says that rather than hurt the poor thing you have decided to position yourselves away from him, which is also good. (in these circumstances) However the fact that you have said after such a very short period of time that *quote none of us want him anymore end quote* … well,. dont you think there is a chance he already picked up on that. How do you think he will feel knowing thats the case? How would you feel if your parents decided to abandon you if you did something wrong? I’m sorry. I shouldnt be like this with you, but its difficult. I was brought up with empathy for others…
Perhaps his ‘excitement’ and this running around the house etc., was a ‘good feeling’ for him. Perhaps he has been in those kennels for so long, and was really happy when someone came along and ‘chose him’ and wanted to take him home with them … and then when they get him home, they decide they were only joking him around… That must be so awful for him. Could you find it in your heart to forgive him that? And maybe sit him down and tell him, you will love him and look after him, but he has to keep a side of the bargain too and behave himself in an appropriate manner!!!
You dont like my answer Im sure, but at least Im telling you the truth the way I see it (its why we’re here).. and I guessing the ‘down-thumbies’ and the ‘trolls’ we have frequenting, will have a whale of a time…
Im tempted to ask you to look for some empathy within yourselves and see all this from the dogs point of view as well as your own. The dog is probably a lot more scared of you than you are of him. He didnt ask to be in these circumstances he finds himself and you in; and he probably doesnt want to be with you now, the same as you feel about him. Its so sad. But for the sake of a few extra days, maybe weeks of good behaviour training *(by the dog trust) or at least some PROPER ‘marrying’ of yourselves and this poor wee hound, all this could have been stopped in its tracks.
Re the lil sister, a lot of dogs (and other animals) dont like kids. Maybe, in the past, this dog has been badly treated by a small toddler and is remembering that when he sees your sister. Lots of animals in rescue centres are this way. They ALL have a past, and a reason why they land up in these centres, its really up to the dog trust to have informed you of all this… Its a disgrace really that theyve left you in a situation like this… I never in a million years would have thought that anything like this could happen in this day and age, but there you go, we dont all know everything and I guess there are lots of lessons to learn from this, you just have to decipher exactly what they are…
But I wish you luck, AND that poor wee dog. Hopefully he‘ll find a nice home eventually, and maybe you should go for abudgie or something smaller thats easier to look after and a good starting point for the continued care that comes with looking after any animal, or anything thats ‘reliant on you’ for all its care..
Good Luck. I hope it works out for you all before anyone does anything they may come to regret..
You and your family should NEVER again get a dog or any other animal!!!
You´ve had that poor dog for only 2,5 days and want to get rid of him? Wow – that´s what I would call patience.
He bites? – Well, as you and your family don´t even like him you will probably cause the problem with your behavior towards him.
He only listens when food is involved. – So what? He has no reason to obey any of you. He doesn´t even know you yet.
He jumps on furniture to assert his dominance. – That´s nonsense. Why shouldn´t he do it? He doesn´t know that you don´t want him to do it. So he has no reason not to.
If he’s ever left alone, he whines and howls. – Yeah, he is a pack animal. He doesn´t understand why he is alone. You have to teach a dog to be left alone.
He chews everything. – Well, chewing is what he got his teeth for! How should he know what he is allowed to chew and what not? (By the way if you get a dog you have to be aware that it can happen that the dog finds something amusing you don´t. My female rescue destroyed sofas – and guess what she is still here.)
…and is getting really quite vicious – What exactly does that mean?
and please no trainign advice comment. we’re past that. he’s a lost cause. – Well, it would obviously be hopeless to give any advice other than the one I gave in my first sentence: NEVER EVER GET ANOTHER DOG. It would end in the same disaster!
Just take the dog back to where you got him from. And hopefully they will have a closer look on the people they give dogs to next time!
God this dog is so clever he should be on Britain’s Got Talent!
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My dog can open doors if I don’t shut them right…..and we have handles 2!
Do you want us all 2 feel sorry 4 u?
It’s the poor little doggie I feel so sad 4!
I’d be in the bathroom crying if I were that poor little doggie!Still I suppose it’s the one place you all have to go at sometime or another and you will see him, while you r having a *** or something!
Stressing you!At least you can tell someone how you feel, little doggie has no-one
Gosh, I am begging to feel so sad 4 this little doggie! DUMPED in the bathroom.
I am gonna stop now….
I have spent five minutes answering your question…..in doggie world I think that might work out 2 about errrrrrrrrr 3 days!
All dogs are little ****** unless u show them who’s the BOSS!
Still he’s only a little ***** ur r a bigger 1!
Ps. Please don’t pick my answer as the best 1!Y cos then I know you will have spent time reading it…….when you could have………well errrr
Well, others have said it all already. All I can add is I sincerely hope you all get put on a do not adopt list by that shelter, and that they share their experience with any breed rescue group or other shelters in your area.
Your family is NOT suited for dog ownership. That poor dog has gone through enough already and certainly does not deserve your family.
No dog is a prick, you need to grow a backbone, he has been cooped up in a shelter. Take him back and let them place him with someone who will love him and care for him and give him good direction